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Nobody Should Believe Me

S03 Ep07 RERUN: Trial of the Century

Nobody Should Believe Me

True Story Media

True Crime, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.32.3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 May 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

We're rereleasing an episode from our original coverage of the Kowalski case that was published on 11/7/2023. *** With a verdict in the case days away, host Andrea Dunlop unpacks some of what’s happened so far in the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial with lawyer and trial consultant Jonathan Leach. They analyze the dueling opening statements, consider what each side is likely to look for in jurors, and which of the charges—if any—might be most viable.   Andrea shares insights on the lawyers after watching their interactions in court. She also weighs in on the extensive medical testimony so far, including a major revelation about the origins of Maya's controversial CRPS diagnosis. We also share a chilling account of Maya’s ketamine coma that was shared in court via missives written by Beata herself.   As both sides begin their closing arguments Andrea weighs the merits of what each side has told the jury and considers what the ramifications of the imminent verdict might be.  *** To support the show, subscribe on ⁠Apple Podcast⁠s or go to ⁠Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe⁠ where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.   Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: ⁠@andreadunlop⁠  Buy Andrea’s ⁠books here⁠.  For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit ⁠MunchausenSupport.com⁠  Download the ���APSAC's practice guidelines here⁠.  ***  Click ⁠here⁠ to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

True Story Media.

0:09.2

Hello, it's Andrea. You may notice that this episode is coming a day later than usual,

0:14.6

and also that it's not the episode you were expecting. So we will be continuing our coverage

0:19.5

of the Rady Children's lawsuit next week,

0:21.9

but we ended up needing to re-record some things for this episode, so that is why it will be

0:26.8

a little bit late. Covering a case that is unfolding in real time can be a challenge, and we want

0:33.0

to make sure we are as accurate and precise as humanly possible. And frankly, that takes time and resources.

0:39.9

I could not ask for a better team than the one I have on this show, but we are an independent

0:44.2

production, and I would rather be late with an episode than miss something important.

0:48.9

So today we're sharing a very on-themed rerun from season three, discussing the goings-on of the

0:55.5

Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins trial right before the verdict came in.

1:00.7

We have been covering this case for almost two years now on both the main feed and the

1:06.0

Patreon, and there are many parallels between this case and the Rady Children's Lawsuit.

1:11.6

I've also made all of the subscriber episodes about the Kowalski trial available on the free

1:16.5

tier of Patreon this month if you want to go and do a super deep dive. We have about a billion episodes

1:22.5

about this trial. There's also a ton of other exclusive subscriber content available there and on Apple Podcasts,

1:29.8

including this month our conversation about Elizabeth Finch and The Anatomy of Lies on Peacock.

1:35.4

And if you subscribe on either of those places, you will get all eight episodes of season six on the launch day, June 19th.

1:43.6

Subscribing is the best way to support the show, but if monetary support is not feasible

1:47.7

right now, we totally get it. Rating and reviewing the show, leaving comments on Spotify,

1:52.8

spreading the word anywhere you talk to people, and shopping our sponsors are also great

1:57.3

ways to support and help me be able to pay the fine folks who I could not do

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