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Nobody Should Believe Me

S03 E05: The Women

Nobody Should Believe Me

True Story Media

Personal Journals, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.23.3K Ratings

🗓️ 19 October 2023

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

In the flattened version of the Maya Kowalski story that has dominated the headlines, Beata Kowalski is a mother who fell prey to age-old biases against women. This story attaches itself to the well-documented reality that women are all too often not believed when it comes to their own pain, the stories of their own lives, and their professional opinions. Beata is cast as the martyr in Netflix’s “Take Care of Maya” and two other women, Cathy Beady and Dr. Sally Smith, are cast as the villains. Today, we unpack the messy gender dynamics of this case.   Cathy Beady is the social worker with a troubling past who’s been accused of grooming and assaulting Maya Kowalski. What do we know about what happened during Maya’s stay at Johns Hopkins All Childrens? Was Cathy Beady really hellbent on keeping Maya and Beata apart?  Media coverage of the Maya Kowalski story has also done irreparable harm to the life and career of the respected doctor at the center of the controversy: child abuse pediatrician Sally Smith. She’s been accused of violating HIPPA in a single-minded crusade to create a case against Beata Kowalski. But is there evidence that Dr. Smith did anything other than her job? Did she drive Beata to death as the film suggests or is it possible her interventions saved Maya Kowalski’s life?  As we break down the narratives and misinformation surrounding this case we get to the heart of the matter. The Kowalski legal team’s claims that Munchausen by proxy is based on “junk science” and that Beata Kowalski wasn’t guilty of medical child abuse because this form of abuse isn’t even real.   *** To support the show, subscribe on Apple Podcasts or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial. Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop  Buy Andrea’s books here.  For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com   Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here.  ***  Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

True Story Media.

0:07.5

Nobody should believe me is a production of large media. That's L-A-R-J media.

0:12.8

Before we begin, a quick warning that in this show we discuss child abuse and this content may be difficult for some listeners.

0:19.5

If you or anyone you know is a victim or survivor of medical child abuse,

0:23.4

please go to Munchausen Support.com to connect with professionals who can help.

0:29.5

People believe their eyes.

0:32.5

That's something that actually is so central to this whole issue

0:37.2

and to people that experience this is that

0:40.1

we do believe the people that we love when they're telling us something. If you questioned

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