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Haunted UK Podcast: History, Hauntings and the Unexplained

S03-E05 - Area 51 and Bob Lazar Part 2

Haunted UK Podcast: History, Hauntings and the Unexplained

Steven Holloway

Haunted Locations, Ghosts, Society & Culture, Strange Phenomena, Documentary Podcast, Folklore, Documentary, Hauntings, Ufos, History, Paranormal, Unexplained Mysteries

4.5 • 652 Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2022

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Beyond Area 51, somewhere near the dry bed of Papoose Lake, another facility is said to exist.


A place called S-4.


And according to Bob Lazar, it was there that he saw technology unlike anything made on Earth.


In this second part of Haunted UK Podcast’s Area 51 and Bob Lazar series, Steve turns from the history of Dreamland to the man whose claims transformed the mythology of the Nevada desert.

The episode follows Robert Scott Lazar’s unusual background, from his early fascination with rockets and technology to his time around Los Alamos, his financial struggles, and the circumstances that allegedly led him to a highly classified role connected to exotic propulsion systems.


From there, the story moves into Lazar’s most famous claims: that he was flown from McCarran Airport to Groom Lake, transported by blacked-out bus to a hidden facility known as S-4, and shown a disc-shaped craft being studied by small teams of scientists and engineers. Lazar claimed the craft used an anti-gravity propulsion system powered by Element 115, producing gravitational effects far beyond conventional human technology.


Steve explores Lazar’s descriptions of the “Sport Model” craft, the smooth interior, the strange reactor, transparent wall sections, the nine hangars, the gravity amplifiers, and the test flights he claimed to witness above the desert. The episode also follows the moment Lazar allegedly took friends into the mountains to watch a scheduled test flight — a decision that, according to his account, led to surveillance, interrogation, threats, and the end of his time at S-4.


Atmospheric, careful, and rooted in one of UFO culture’s most enduring controversies, this episode asks whether Bob Lazar was a whistleblower, a storyteller, a pawn in a disinformation game, or the man who revealed one of the most extraordinary secrets ever hidden in the desert.


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Whichever platform you choose, we're sure you'll enjoy the bonus content. Thanks for listening and enjoy the episode. On Papoose Dry Lake Bed, a number of miles from the main area 51 complex, allegedly lies a research and storage facility known as S4.

2:00.0

It's at this highly classified above-top secret facility that are lies a research and storage facility known as S4.

2:04.2

It's at this highly classified above-top secret facility that a man named Bob Lazard not only witnessed strange aircraft,

2:08.2

but also worked on their systems and subsystems,

2:11.5

trying to understand and recreate what was in front of him.

2:15.4

This process, known as back or reverse engineering,

2:19.3

is common between military superpowers

2:21.3

when one comes into possession of an item of technology

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