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Nobody Should Believe Me

S03 E03: In a Heartbeat

Nobody Should Believe Me

True Story Media

Personal Journals, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.2 • 3.3K Ratings

🗓️ 5 October 2023

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

In our third episode, we look at a central piece of the story that was left unfinished at the time of Beata Kowalski’s death: the police investigation into her for medical child abuse.  Along with Detective Mike Weber and our anonymous Florida pediatrician friend, we unpack shocking new details from the police investigation and from Jack Kowalski’s interview the Detective Stephanie Graham. Was Jack really just being pressured to throw his wife under the bus? Or did he have suspicions of his own about her? We also unpack some of the many discrepancies in Maya's medical history and the troubling behaviors of her mother Beata, showing that that this pattern of deceptive behavior went way beyond the question of whether her daughter’s diagnosis of CRPS was correct or not As the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children’s trial unfolds in real time, we examine the facts of the case as they stood when Beata died and show how the prevailing media narrative about this case is getting it all wrong.  *** To support the show, subscribe on Apple Podcasts or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.  Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop Buy Andrea’s books here. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. *** Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

True Story Media

0:05.4

Nobody Should Believe Me is a production of large media. That's L-A-R-J media.

0:12.8

Before we begin, a quick warning that in this show we discuss child abuse and this content may be difficult for some listeners.

0:19.5

If you or anyone you know is a victim or survivor of medical child abuse,

0:23.6

please go to munchausen support.com to connect with professionals who can help.

0:30.7

Every investigation begins with a question, but this film starts off with an answer.

0:37.0

So did they want Jack to turn on Viala?

0:41.4

I would assume that they did.

0:44.2

That would have made their case easier.

0:46.8

He said that he would choose his kids over his life.

0:51.8

That's what he's supposed to say.

0:57.9

If you say otherwise, it will be held against you.

1:07.5

That is the only correct answer. The audio you just heard is a producer and a Kowalski family attorney, Deborah Salisisbury talking in the Netflix documentary,

1:11.6

Take Care of Maya. People believe their eyes. That's something that actually is so central

1:19.6

to this whole issue and to people that experience this, is that we do believe the people

1:26.4

that we love when they're telling us something.

1:28.5

If you questioned every thing that everyone told you, you couldn't make it through your day.

1:34.6

I'm Andrea Dunlop, and this is Nobody Should Believe Me.

1:38.9

If you'd like to support the show, you can subscribe on Patreon and Apple Podcasts,

1:43.9

where you will get all episodes early

1:45.9

and ad-free, as well as tons of bonus content, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski

1:51.5

trial, which is happening now, with me and our Florida pediatrician friend. If monetary support

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