This is Karen Hunter and there all the time. I just found her. This dope person who understands patent. She's a lawyer, she's in this intellectual property arena, but she's also a little bit of a historian.

I'm going to say a lot of bit of a historian as it relates to patents.

Let me welcome, Chantavia Johnson. How you doing today?

I am well, thank you so much for having me.

Listen, you are super smart.

And we got into like this Twitter back and forth

around Granville T Woods and I was like, oh, okay, so I got to have it on my show, but I also want to talk off, you know, Mike, after the show about some of the people that we should know because you know there all these hidden

figures and they shouldn't be hidden we just don't know who they are and when I saw

the Granbo T was at 60 patents in the 1800s and that he leveraged those patents to make a life for himself.

I'm like, man, who else is out there?

So you have agreed to help us understand the folk that we don't know who've done some amazing things in this area of invention.

That's right and I am very passionate about this topic. I've been writing about and researching black inventors for the longest time.

My parents and I was little, they would give us coloring books about black inventors.

So they started young and I just kept learning. So what did your parents do that they thought to indoctrinate you into this world?

So it was just the perfect marriage of my mother, it was a teacher and educator.

My father had his own business and they were very

purposeful about teaching us our history I have two younger sisters and I'm not

kidding when I say out most of our coloring books are like coloring books about

black inventors, black business owners, important figures in black history.

I would get into arguments with my teachers in like third, fourth, fifth grade

about black historical facts because I knew more than they did most of the time.

And my parents just, they instilledilled in us early.

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