No business comes without struggle, right? You always got to have sort of the dips and the struggle in the beginning before you see the upside.

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What's up guys?

Welcome back to another episode of the Rock Your Brand podcast.

This is episode 912 and I am fired up today because I've got a very special guest

that I can't wait to share with you.

Now he has been on the podcast in the past and you may remember him.

Spencer Hawes from niche Pursuits is coming back on but today I decided to interview him on some

things that we really hadn't talked about before and some of those were well

some failures along the way now he's no stranger to being an

entrepreneur he has started multiple businesses and he actually had over 200 niche

sites at one time and he's been slapped by Google numerous

times and all of that fun stuff that comes with building niche sites but he's

also built a sass company and sold it. That was Longtail Pro. Talked about kind of what

it was like to get that thing started and then some of the struggles that he didn't even know

that was going to amount to what it ended up becoming.

Also, how he, well, he had a developer and then the developer kind of stole this code

and, well, he couldn't use it anymore anymore so we had to start over again.

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