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The New Yorker Radio Hour

Ryan Zinke’s Deregulation Quest, and the Future of Meatless Burgers

The New Yorker Radio Hour

WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

Politics, Arts, News, Wnyc, Books, David, Storytelling, Society & Culture, Yorker, New, Remnick

4.26.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2018

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

As a congressman from Montana, Ryan Zinke was considered a moderate—he resisted radical suggestions, for example, to turn over federal land to the states. But, as Secretary of the Interior, he is at the forefront of the Trump Administration’s push to rapidly roll back environmental regulations and expand mining, drilling, and commercial exploitation of all kinds. Zinke was instrumental in the recent decision to shrink Bears Ears National Monument, opening up enormous tracts of land to uranium mining. He has acted in seemingly petty ways, as well, including increasing litter by reintroducing the sale of plastic water bottles in national parks. Elizabeth Kolbert recently wrote about Zinke's tenure at the Interior Department. In assessing Zinke's and Trump's motives, she tells David Remnick, the most cynical interpretation is likely the right one. Plus, a short primer that will finally explain bitcoin (not); and a food editor investigates a new veggie burger that supposedly looks, feels, and tastes like beef.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is real trade to God.

0:04.0

The One World Observatory is straight of the block for West Boulevard and make that right.

0:10.0

They didn't break that, but they have pretty good access to those people.

0:15.0

They're actually, they just...

0:16.0

Self-consciously mocked that lineage.

0:19.0

So that's happening.

0:24.4

It seems like an incredible story here on many fronts.

0:28.9

From One World Trade Center in Manhattan, this is The New Yorker Radio Hour,

0:32.5

a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker.

0:34.8

Welcome to The New Yorker Radio Hour.

0:35.8

I'm David Remnick.

0:39.5

And now, let's talk a little about Bitcoin.

0:43.9

It's the middle of the lunch rush at Meza Grill in Midtown Manhattan.

0:47.0

Cold hard cash is being exchanged.

0:48.4

There you go, 80 cents and good change.

0:52.2

But so is a virtual kind of currency called Bitcoin.

0:55.0

Dennis, I don't know if you've been reading the papers lately. There's something called Bitcoin.

0:56.0

I'm not sure...

0:57.0

Every Bitcoin ball that you speak to says the scarcity of Bitcoin

1:00.0

is a new kind of currency, but ignore that point.

1:03.0

Bitcoin.

1:04.0

Bitcoin.

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