Welcome to the Eric Metax's show.

You know, sometimes Eric pretends to be interested in his guest.

But he's really just doing a crossword puzzle and rolling his eyes at what they say.

He told me never to say that ever. But look, I made a mistake. Oh, I'm human. In my way. Only I'm not. And now you're a host, Eric Mataxis. Hey there, folks. Welcome back to the Eric Mattaxas show. This is what we like to call hour two. Technically, legally, we're obliged to call it hour two because it follows

hour one. I'm sorry if I've offended anyone. Let me just say that we get to keep talking

to Diana West about China, about the Kung flu pandedemic, as it's being called.

And I'm excited, so excited, really, Diana, to have you because you've written wonderful things about this.

Where can people find your writings on these subjects?

Thank you for asking.

All my work is at diana west.net, and it contains links to my articles and blogs and also all of my books and audiobooks.

All right.

Diana west.net. And that's not made up, it's not a made up name. That's your real name.

That's my real name.

Somebody once told me that if I wanted to succeed as a writer,

I should change my name to Eric West. I never did that. Okay, so I'm in New York City. You're in an

undisclosed location. We all follow the news, try to figure out what's going on. You're saying

some dramatic things. I would really

prefer to think that you're wildly mistaken, but you just said that this French scientist who

actually discovered HIV in the 80s and who got a Nobel Prize for his work. He has just concluded what others

had previously concluded that this Wuhan virus, this COVID-19 virus could not have occurred

naturally. It was not something that was created in the wet market. It was created in a lab by

Chinese scientists. He didn't attribute the work to Chinese scientists. He just said that looking at

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