Hey Dave Meltzer here on this week's episode of the playbook I have Ryan

Surhant it's very rare but I got schooled in the lessons of sales by someone

that I had no idea had such depth and knowledge about the best things to do in order to stimulate interest,

transition interest, and share a vision.

Join me for all of that and more on this week's The Playbook.

I have a multifaceted Ryan Sirhan here. I want to start with an interesting thing.

I have three daughters and a little boy and I taught one thing I taught my daughters was a line that said

I'm going to keep my options open and when I was

reading about you you know both of our careers have unraveled I just kept saying

yeah it's your life right you always seemed to, if I'm not incorrect, you started kind of as just a contractor in a roofer.

Yes. Is that right?

It kind of, I mean, you're too good looking to be a roofer, by the way.

No, it was my parents always made me do like manual labor.

So we always had to work every summer when we were little kids.

And so it started with general yard work and then through college I worked for a company

called Testa Building and Remodeling.

And so I did demolition and roofing and all that.

And I just have this memory of just 80 pound bags of shingles on the shoulder,

up and down ladders, taking the demo, ripping out kitchens, putting it, and what it really

teaches you more than anything other than exhausting you is like you want to work your

ass off so you never have to do another roof for the rest of your life.

But yeah, man, my whole life is based on just

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