This is Jim Simovan and you are listening to That UFO podcast.

Hi everyone and welcome back to that UFO podcast.

My name is Andy and joining me on today's show I have, first off, a returning guest.

He has a background in aerospace engineering and is a renowned researcher in his own right, Ryan S. Wood.

And also for his first appearance on the podcast, he is a humanities professor and UFO researcher. I'd love to welcome Anthony DeLorenzo. Welcome to both of you.

Great. Yeah. I'm glad we're here.

Yeah. We do that awkward thing where you both talk because i usually have one guest on at a time

and i just throw it out there because we're all going to speak over each other at points but um

ryan you have been on the podcast before but for those unfamiliar with you or your work what's your

kind of elevate our 60 second pitch of who you are and what you do. Yeah.

Well, I guess I've specialized in sort of two things, government documents and UFO crashes.

And I've written a couple of seminal books around that and sort of the leading expert championing the

majestic documents and all their authenticity. And so that's that's my play into uphology along with

my recently deceased father who got me into this entire field back when I was like 14 or 15,

as I can't remember.

And we'll come back to talk about your late father in just a moment.

And very quickly before Anthony comes in, if anyone hears I'm a little bit bunged up.

I do have a bit of a cold, so the guests Anthony Ryan, are going to keep this show going tonight for me.

And Anthony, on that, a little bit about your own background and what got you into the UFO topic.

Yeah.

So as you said, I'm a humanities professor.

And I've been researching the UFO subject more intensely for the last few years, which is what led me to

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