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The Political Scene | The New Yorker

Ryan Lizza and Patrick Radden Keefe discuss Obama and domestic spying.

The Political Scene | The New Yorker

The New Yorker

Barack, Washington, Wickenden, News, Obama, Politics, Wnyc, Lizza, President

4.33.9K Ratings

🗓️ 13 December 2013

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Ryan Lizza and Patrick Radden Keefe discuss Obama and domestic spying.

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It's Thursday, December 12th. I'm Dorothy Wickendon, executive editor of The New Yorker writers and editors about politics. It's Thursday, December 12th.

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I'm Dorothy Wickenden, executive editor of The New Yorker.

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Back in 2007, when Barack Obama was first running for president,

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he came down hard on Bush for spying on American citizens.

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This administration acts like violating civil liberties

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is the way to enhance our security.

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It is not.

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There are no shortcuts to protecting America. That means no more illegal wiretapping of American citizens. No more national

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security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime. As president, though, Obama

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defends those policies. This is from a speech last June. What I can say is that in evaluating these programs, they make a difference in our capacity

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to anticipate and prevent possible terrorist activity. In the abstract, you can complain

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