Yes, yes, yes, and yes, Sean on today's show. I am fired up because we are interviewing a long time client who's having massive success.

Sean, you told me you said, Clay, I might not be able to participate in this interview because if I'm my client, text me and I have to go, then I have to go. It's true story.

So you might be here for a minute or two or you might have to leave right now.

Yeah, we're good. We're good for now. We're good right now.

I need 100% focus, but available for your client. Okay. All right. All right. Now Ryan, you've been a client. How long have we worked with you, sir?

Um, so we've worked together since my birthday in May of 2020.

And how did you originally hear about us? What, what, what poor series of life choices did you make consecutively to?

I, I listened to John Lee Dumas entrepreneur on fire.

And so John Lee Dumas, we love a, John, you know, the reason why we buy ads on his program is, is we do conferences every two months.

Our next one is December 2nd and 3rd, December 2nd and 3rd, these are three of them out there who doesn't know their two day interactive business workshops.

And what happened was like seven years ago or eight years ago, I get an email from John Lee Dumas asking if I'd like to be on a show as a guest.

Were you working with us at the time?

I heard that show before I started working. Oh, really? And I had no idea who he was. I'm like, oh, you sure I'll be on the show.

And we had thousands of people reach out and say, hey, I want to attend your workshop. And I was thinking, that was kind of fun.

So I thought, you know, we should do. We should probably.

So I think I spend 10,000 a month every month on the John Lee Dumas show promoting our, our, our conferences.

And then during the, the scam, Demick during the pandemic, whatever that was, when everyone was saying, you can't possibly have a conference. You're going to kill people.

Amish, I think about this folks. The Amish are not dying in droves and they're not social distancing. They're not wearing masks. And I thought, you know what, I'm going to keep it.

If people are going, what does that mean? I'm like, I'm going to keep advertising. So Dumas is going, you want to advertise to your conference in the pandemic?

Absolutely. And so, okay. So you heard about it. So John Lee Dumas. And what was the next step? Did you fill out a form? Did you call us or what did that next step look like?

Um, filled out a form had a 13 point assessment with you.

And I must have smelled good that day because we started working with Andrew the following week.

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