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Hey, everybody, welcome to our true podcast. As always, keep the wins and the sale of this pirate chip, everybody, support the people to support us. I'm wearing my public rec pants now right now, Gary. I don't know about you, but I won't have a long time now. I'm so ridiculous. You? I'm wearing them. I'm wearing the shorts. It's really interesting. A lot of the products here become a part of my life. You announced to me that I was going to love public rack. I bought five items. I know. I know. And the many, many stuff we try to get behind here that we like. So please help support it. And also check out Dr. After Dark. Check out our stream at Dr.rew.tv and all that good stuff. The Adam and Dr. Drew show. Of course. I think you guys, those of you here in the Croll Platform know that one. So today, Ryan Holiday is back. The new book is called Courage is Calling, available on Amazon. It's been out since September 28th.

It's also, you can see his podcast, the Daily Stoic, or you can hear it, the Daily Stoic podcast on Apple Podcast, Spotify. Ryan's podcast, Ryan Holiday, H-O-L-I-D-A-Y dot net, at Ryan Holiday. My friend, welcome back. Thanks for having me. Of course. I love fact that this morning, he's all upset because I got lost in my writing. To me, that's a good thing, not a bad thing. It's what

we're writing about. I'm working on the sequel to this one, which is about self-discipline.

So I was writing about self-discipline, which ironically includes a chapter on

time management, but I lost. The irony is not lost on us. So this book, I love this book,

for a multiplicity reason. I called him right away and I said, this is a good one. This is one of your

big ones. Because not only does it hit the mark as you always do, but I've been saying since the

beginning of the pandemic, it's it's time for courage, not fear. And we have weirdly, we have

weirdly gone into this hysteria, almost delusional hysteria. I feel like the general personality

of the country has gone from narcissistic to to histrionic. I think we

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