What have everybody, L-E-F-K-O-E, man here?

And it's going to be a different vibe because this is a special bonus episode of the podcast

and I'm with a special bonus kind of human.

And his name is Ryan Holiday.

His work is something that I've followed for a very long time.

His books are bestsellers all across the world translated into tons of different languages.

And I didn't realize that today with your book being officially released, you were completing

the Trinity.

I didn't know there was a Trinity happening.

We've had you on before to talk about obstacles the way in our NFL world.

It swept through the league, the Patriots, the Seahawks.

All these teams were reading it about overcoming obstacles.

Then you came out with ego as the enemy.

We talked about Nick Sabin and Bill Belichek always finding a way to bring it back.

And now the last one stillness is the key, which I just reread today.

And you brought me a little gift and I appreciated a ring and inside it says you could leave

life right now, Ryan Holiday.

Thanks for having me.

I'm excited to have you here.

Is special bonus episode mean not as good as a regular episode and we're calling it

a bonus episode?

Is it actually some sort of bonus?

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