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The Megyn Kelly Show

Ryan Holiday on Confronting Our Fear, the Value of Being "Difficult," and Courage | Ep. 177

The Megyn Kelly Show

SiriusXM

Society & Culture, News, News Commentary

4.632.8K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2021

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

Megyn Kelly is joined by Ryan Holiday, best-selling author of the new book "Courage is Calling: Fortune Favors The Brave," on the true meaning of stoicism, confronting our fear, the importance of building thick skin, the value of being "difficult," quitting, how to deal with worry, why "stillness" is important, and more.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Megan Kelly show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

0:07.0

Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly.

0:14.0

Welcome to the Megan Kelly show and happy Friday.

0:16.9

We have a great show for you today.

0:18.5

Something different and something I'm really excited to talk about.

0:22.4

Ryan Holiday is here.

0:23.8

My assistant Abby is in love with Ryan Holiday.

0:25.8

I confess after Kevin, Feinan, he's her number two guy.

0:29.8

Ryan is a New York Times bestselling author of the mega hit.

0:33.9

The obstacle is the way and many, many other books.

0:38.0

And as of yesterday, his new book Courage is Calling Fortune Favors the Brave is a New

0:43.8

York Times bestseller too.

0:45.4

Courage is calling Fortune Favors the Brave.

0:48.6

His path from self-described media manipulator to champion of stoicism, something I've really

0:54.6

been looking forward to learning more about is fascinating.

0:57.6

Ryan, I'm so happy to have you here.

0:59.5

Thanks for coming.

1:00.5

Thanks for having me.

1:01.5

It's funny to hear about your assistant.

1:03.8

Every day you're in her inbox giving her thoughts on stoicism and it's funny because she'll

1:08.7

sometimes say like, you've got to read more about stoicism because I'll just say something

1:12.3

that she thinks aligns with it.

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