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What is up, theology nerds? This is Tripp. And returning to the podcast is Jesuit professor of theology at Marquette University, Ryan Dunes. He's back. We had a blast last time talking about his book, spiritual exercises for a secular age.

And this time, this time, he is joining to share with us what it is like to think within the Catholic tradition.

What is it like as a theologian, a member of the Catholic Church, to think in with and among that tradition.

How do you inherit the legacy?

What do you, how do you wrestle with questions in the present?

What is it like for that theological tradition to transform and evolve and move over time and all sorts of good stuff?

But it's a fun conversation because not only do you hear how he thinks, but you hear how he came to own his Catholic identity in a family.

I had a Lutheran parent and a Catholic parent.

Anyway, this is a great episode.

I hope you enjoy it.

If you want to hear him answer the big eight questions, then head over to Theology for Normal People.com and get access to the whole class Pete Inns and I've done around it and, you know, that kind of thing.

But, you know, we're getting close to Advent. Advent, that season leading up to Christmas, in this Advent, I'm going to be joined by Philip Clayton and Diana Butler

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