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Welcome to the weekend edition of the Daily Stoic. Each weekday we bring you a meditation inspired by the ancient Stoic, something that can help you live up to those four

Stoic virtues of courage, justice, wisdom, and temperance. And here on the weekend we take a deeper dive into those same topics. We interview Stoic philosophers, we reflect, we prepare, we think deeply about the challenging issues of our time. And we work through this philosophy in a way that's more possible here when we're not rushing to worker to get the kids to school.

We have the time to think, to go for a walk, to sit with our journals and to prepare for what the future will bring.

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Hey, it's Ryan Holiday. Welcome to another episode of the Daily Stoic podcast. I'm really excited about today's guest. He's someone who I have had many, many long conversations with, but whose art and comedy I've been a fan of for a very long time talking about Pete Holmes, stand up comedian.

You may have seen a show in HBO crashing, which ran for three seasons. I thought was hilarious. I did his podcast, maybe a year and a half ago, two years ago.

We talked for three hours, felt like we really connected. And then we sort of stayed in touch. I did it again when stillness came out. We talked for another three hours.

And in between there, he put out a book, which I really liked called Comedy Sex God. It's supposed to be funny. That sort of Pete's sense of humor. I actually remember when I went to Pete's house for the first time.

I walked in and he had this dog and I was petting the dog and I said, what's your dog's name? And he just said, we don't know. And then he walked out of the room. And it was very clear later as I heard him do it to someone else. This is a running gag that he has.

But I thought it was sort of very typical of Pete's humor. His show is hilarious. His stand up is great. I really like his podcast.

There are these sort of deeply in depth interviews. It's usually 90 minutes in or sometimes two hours in that he starts to talk about God.

So Pete's is kind of interesting sort of spiritual seeker. He grew up very Christian, went to a Christian college, got married early. Then his life sort of blew apart when his wife cheated on him.

And sort of I don't want to say fell away from his faith, but but began to open his eyes and explore other things. So he explored Eastern philosophy with Ramdas. He's read all sorts of Christian and mystic texts.

And then I feel like I was probably involved with introducing him to stoicism, which he's now talked about on the podcast a number of times. And he and I have gone back and forth.

If you remember the email we did several months ago about the sort of similarities between some of the themes and Marcus Relius and Ecclesiastes in the Bible.

We were asking was there any way that Marcus could have come across this. So he and I have sort of gone back and forth. I rely on his insights and expertise about Christianity.

And he sometimes asked me questions about stoicism. So I've been trying to get them on the podcast for a long time. Actually we started. We wanted to do an email interview for daily still about the new book.

We ended up writing a really good email about the book if you remember it was about sort of how easy it is to get in sort of a pattern of depression or loneliness to almost something you come to wear almost as a coat or a piece of clothing.

And then we talked about the sort of sort of becomes part of you and we talk a little bit about that in the episode. He and I bonded over are sort of very similar parents who are.

You know sweet kind people who did a great job raising two children into adulthood but have a lot of flaws and issues and things that have caused pain and turmoil and confusion. And you know I think are both independently working through those issues.

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