Boxer turned bouncer Viv Graham was one of the northeast most notorious hard men.

It was huge, you were strong, we could take anybody out.

Not many men on earth could match Viv Graham.

But his life of violence led to his downfall.

Why did it happen?

Why did they do that?

How did Viv Graham build an empire?

It was the power, the presence, the aura. And who was he, really?

Gangster, the story of Viv Graham.

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You're listening to BBC Sounds. Hello, thank you very much for downloading the Scrum 5 podcast from what's now a very quiet Yokohama Stadium where Wales will play

South Africa tomorrow but we've just been treated to a sensational victory by England over

New Zealand somewhat unexpected but the quality of that performance was something else.

And today, Noneki, today it's with Alan Dimmock, a Scotsman who's also a writer for Rugby World and I think it's very interesting because obviously he's not on one side or the other when it comes to any of these semi-finals and he's a good guy as well.

So here's myself, Karthriowen, with Alan Dimmock.

A stroke of luck.

A stroke of luck because I found the only other neutral observer at the Oklahoma Stadium because Alan as you can

guess is not a kiwi and he's not an Englishman either.

No, a bit like the England head coach, I'm from somewhere completely different.

I'm a Scotsman.

It's one of those people were asking me, which way would you like the game to go today?

And I thought, well, to be honest, it's a bit like Cobra Kai versus the empire it's sort of the bad guys from all the movies you grew up

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