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You're listening to BBC Sounds. Hello, hello, hello and hello is the Scrum Five Daily World Cup podcast I'm Garretri Sowen with me

Nicki Robinson and today was a day of contrast because we expected some shocks

we got absolutely none of them both the

favorites one in England and New Zealand both one convincingly yet today is

very notable in the fact that we now see that eras are finishing coming to an end and in particular from the Australian's perspective from the Irish perspective

which therefore puts tomorrow's match between Wales and France into some real context because if Wales lose tomorrow

against France that's it for the Guttlenera. So much to talk about today.

Nicky Robinson alongside me. Nicki where do we start?

I guess we start with the performances, the positives from both New Zealand and England.

Which one do you want to go with?

Let's go with New Zealand because I think

they were mightily impressive, wouldn't they?

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