You're about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about the

podcast I work on. I'm Dan Clark and I commissioned factual podcasts at the BBC.

It's a massive area but I'd sum it up as stories to help us make sense of the forces shaping the world.

What podcasting does is give us the space and the time to take brilliant BBC journalism

and tell amazing compelling stories that really get behind the headlines.

And what I get really excited about is when we find a way of drawing you into a subject

you might not even have thought you were interested in.

Whether it's investigations, science, tech, politics, culture, true crime, the environment,

you can always discover more with a podcast on BBC Sounds.

You're listening to BBC Sounds. All the glamorous locations.

Yeah, we've been in some nice places haven't we?

This is not one of those nice places.

It is, technically, because if you went on a pin drop,

we are directly beneath the sky tree.

Now the sky tree is what is it 634 meters in height and we are in the cart back underneath the Skytree.

Yes, we're surrounded by cement, but it was interesting how high we went up earlier and everyone's

quite amused that I wasn't enjoying it that much up there.

I don't mind being up there. It's just the old looking over the edge thing

that I don't particularly enjoy.

I felt for you because I suffer from vertical when I I'm outside I really don't like the people

mocking you or mocking me when I'm in the same situation but you know yeah it was a

little cruel I found but it's's right. I'm not, I don't suffer from any illness or anything like that.

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