Hey, this is Heath Paggett and welcome to the RV Entrepreneur Podcast. This is episode number four.

Today, I'm sitting down with Michael Boink from Ditching Suburbia.com.

This is actually the first interview I did for my podcast.

It was before I even picked up a mic, so I apologize in advance.

If it's a little bit rough, it's all a learning experience.

But this interview I did with Michael was awesome.

He's been traveling with his family of four in their fifth wheel for the past five years all over the country

and has experimented with just about every different kind of income imaginable while a person can be working on the road.

He's done everything from self-publishing e-books to building affiliate income to even some sponsorships,

work camping opportunities, and running his own company.

And we talk about all of those in this episode.

This guy has done it all.

And I'd just like to add in before we get started that one of the biggest questions that Alyssa and I have gotten since we moved into an RV is,

what are you guys going to do whenever you have kids? Always answered that sarcastically,

like maybe we'll upgrade to a Class A rig, which we've already done, or just something along

those lines. I'm not really sure to be totally honest. But after this conversation with Michael, I feel

more confident that if we did want to spend an extended period of time living in our RV,

traveling with our kids, then we could totally do that. And it would be a very meaningful

experience. And one more thing, before we get started, I just want to let you know that we

actually started having our

conversation in the interview and then we got cut off because of bad Wi-Fi reception and then

we had to jump back on. And so it's going to sound like we're jumping in at the very middle,

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