You're about to listen to a BBC podcast, but this is about something else you might enjoy.

My name's Katie Lecky and I'm an assistant commissioner for on demand music on BBC Sounds.

The BBC has an incredible musical heritage and culture and as a music lover, I love being part of that.

With music on sounds, we offer collections and mixes for everything, from workouts to

helping you nod off, boogie in your kitchen, or even just a moment of calm. And they're all put

together by people who know their stuff. So if you want some expertly curated music in your life,

check out BBC Sounds.

BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts.

Hello, I'm Harriet Gilbert.

Thank you for downloading a good read, the podcasts,

where two guests and I recommend books we love and describe why we love them.

We don't always see eye to eye, but I hope you'll find some great reading suggestions here. Hello, it's good to be back. Not least because today I'm joined by

the actor and writer Ruth Jones, star and co-creator with James Corden of the comedy series Gavin

and Stacey. Ruth's many other TV credits include playing the late Hattie Jakes in the BBC four drama Hattie and scripting and starring in Stacey. Ruth's many other TV credits include playing the late Hattie Jakes in the BBC four drama Hattie

and scripting and starring in Stella on Sky. Her latest novel, Us Three, has just been published.

With Ruth, the man who gave her her first acting job, the theatre film and TV director Dominic Cook.

Dominic's many stage successes

include productions of Stephen Sondheim's Follies

and August Wilson's Mar Rainey's Black Bottom

for the National Theatre.

His first feature film was 2017's on Chesell Beach

and his latest, The Courier,

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