Rutger Bregman: Piglets vs. Toddlers

Decoding the Gurus

Christopher Kavanagh and Matthew Browne

Science, Leisure, Social Sciences, Society & Culture

4.2 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2020

⏱️ 135 minutes

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Summary

Rutger Bregman is a Dutch Historian who wants to tell the world that humans are actually fundamentally kind, hunter gatherer societies contain important wisdom about how to live well, and that collectively we need to cooperate to do something about climate change and economic inequality. So, obviously there was no way Chris and Matt could let these dangerous ideas go unchallenged! Join them this week as they delve into one of Rutger's talks and address Noble Savage myths and other age old debates including whether human nature is fundamentally brutish & cruel or compassionate & kind, whether war is ancient or a recent product of societies, whether civilisation was a good idea or the worst one ever, and perhaps most importantly whether Matt could defeat a chimpanzee in one on one combat when armed with two swords.

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0:00.0	You're going to be. Hello and welcome to Dakota Naguarous. It's the podcast where two academics listen
0:20.9	to content from the greatest minds the online world has to offer, and we do try to understand what they're talking about.
0:27.0	I'm Professor Matt Brown, I'm the psychologist from Australia, and with me as always is Dr. Chris Kavanaugh
0:33.3	a cognitive anthropologist from Ireland originally. Now his background in
0:39.6	anthropology will be pretty useful today because we are covering someone who's written a book and in
0:46.0	large part deals with some of those topics.
0:48.6	So that's going to be pretty helpful, hey Chris.
0:51.2	Yeah, that's right. I might actually have something to
0:53.8	contribute for once. Yeah, yeah, that's a characteristically modest of you. But yes, I
1:00.3	agree. Yeah, so but we got some housekeeping and a few little things to talk about.
1:03.8	I guess we should say that this recording takes place on a momentous day in history.
1:11.2	The second day of counting votes in the American election and how are things looking Chris?
1:17.0	Joe Biden at least according to the Guardian need six more electoral college votes to win.
1:27.0	Although one suspects it's going to take a significant more time to go through all the challenges and
1:34.4	recriminations that Trump's already throwing up. So, but yeah, it looks like
1:39.0	from the horror that was the initial results coming in and Trump doing better than expected to the
1:46.3	mail-in ballots coming in and pushing things back towards Biden.
1:50.3	It's kind of actually a fairly anticipated swing between the two.
1:57.0	Like this is what was expected, but maybe quite a bit tighter than was expected.
2:02.2	So yeah, it looks like at this stage we might end up being incredibly wrong, but it looks like the left are going to have something to be happy about or maybe the world. Yeah definitely
2:14.5	definitely well you know by the time this that this goes to where it'll all be done and
2:19.2	does that I guess so but yeah for you guys in the future, spare a thought to Chris and Matt, who is still on the edge of our seats, along with the rest of the first world,
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