Hello friend thank you as always for continuing to listen to and wait

patiently for new episodes of The Tully Show. I do my best to get one every

week but I have got lots of balls in the air lots of plates I'm spinning and

sometimes this this thing does fall by the way so I thank you for being here. I

will remind you on the weeks there isn't a new Tully show and even the weeks

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slash Mike Tully now on with the show.

Coming to you live on tape from my nine-year-old son's bedroom in

rapidly gentrifying Culver City adjacent California boasting a partially

obstructed view of the world famous Hollywood sign this is The Tully Show I

am your host Mike Tully joining me today from the Netherlands a historian and

author of the New York Times bestseller human time a hopeful history newly

available in paperback just in time for the holidays hello welcome and thanks

ever so much for making time for us ruck or pregnant thanks it's great to be

with you Mike a hallmark I want to talk about the book but first there's the

viral videos that many people also would know you from a hallmark of your

public persona to this point has been this willingness this eagerness I would

say to speak truth to power whether it's telling the assembled global billionaire

class at Davos they need to pay taxes or telling Tucker Carlson he is a lapdog

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