Russian Roulette (with Sarah Longwell & Patrick Gaspard)

Hacks On Tap

News Commentary, News, Government, Politics

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🗓️ 25 February 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Heilemann’s flying solo this week, but fear not! In the absence of Axe & Murphy, Heilemann is joined by two Hacks renowned for their razor-sharp analysis and impeccable wit: Sarah Longwell and Ambassador Patrick Gaspard. Together, they break down Trump’s presser with Macron, the latest in the Russia-Ukraine saga, the fine art of hiding behind empathy, Elon’s latest 4D chess move (or tantrum?), playing possum, and much more!

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0:00.0	Hey, pull up a chair. It's Hacks on Tap with David Axelrod and Mike Murphy.
0:14.0	Just so you understand, Europe is loaning the money to Ukraine.
0:25.3	They get their money back.
0:26.6	No, in fact, to be frank, we paid.
0:29.6	We paid 60% of the total default.
0:32.0	And it was through, like the US, loans, guarantee, grants, and we provided real money, to be clear.
0:39.3	We have 230 billion frozen assets in Europe, Russian assets, but this is not as a collateral
0:46.3	of a loan because this is not our belonging. So they are frozen.
0:50.3	If at the end of the day in the negotiation we will have with Russia, they're ready to give it to us, super, it will be loan at the end of the day in the negotiation we will have with Russia, they're ready to give it to us.
0:56.2	Super.
0:56.8	It would be loan at the end of the day.
0:58.1	And Russia would have paid for that.
0:59.4	If you believe that, it's okay with me.
1:03.0	Donald Trump, Manuel Macron, yesterday at the White House, and we're here on Hacks on Tap.
1:10.6	We were missing.
1:12.4	Actually, I actually said we were free from the often, the always enlightening, but sometimes mildly,
1:22.9	consternation causing presence of Mike Murphy and David Axelrod, both off. And so, uh,
1:28.7	I've called in two people of, of greater, uh, uh, precision, uh, intellect, uh, professionalism,
1:37.2	uh, and, and more composure. Thank God. We got Patrick, the one and only, Patrick Gaspar,
1:43.1	former, uh, well, so many former things, including U.S. Ambassador to South Africa, now a big foot at cap. Patrick, how are you doing?
1:50.6	Good, brother. How are you? As well as can be expected. Under the circumstances, and Sarah Longwell, publisher of the bulwark and Longwell Partners Focus Group, Maestro, and someone who I imagine
2:02.9	is going to be maybe her version of as well as could be expected might be a little even darker
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