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That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Russian Love Poem

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Exactly Right and iHeartPodcasts

True Crime, Tv & Film

4.67.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2025

⏱️ 127 minutes

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Summary

Today, Kara and Liza discuss the early SVU episode “Russian Love Poem” (Season 1, Episode 12) and dissect the vicious bludgeoning of the Atlanta millionaire Lance Herndon. 

SOURCES:
NBC News
NBC
United Press International
Orlando Sentinel
BET
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Tampa Bay Times
NPR
Publishers Weekly
Baugh V. State (2003)
Court TV
Murderpedia

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
The Real Murders of Atlanta

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0:00.0

This is exactly right.

0:06.3

Two rich young Americans move to the Costa Rican jungle to start over,

0:11.0

but one of them will end up dead and the other tried for murder three times.

0:16.2

It starts with a dream, a nature reserve and a spectacular new home.

0:20.6

But little by little, they lose it. They actually lose it.

0:23.6

They sort of like nuts.

0:25.1

Until one night, everything spins out of control.

0:32.3

Listen to Hell in Heaven on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:41.2

Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable.

0:45.7

We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the vicious felonies these episodes are based on.

0:50.6

These are our stories.

0:52.1

Dun dun!

0:52.7

Dun!

1:09.0

The based on these are our stories. D-D-D-Dun! Yay, that's messed up an SvU podcast. I'm Lisa Trager.

1:13.3

And I'm Kara Clank. And you know how we do. SVU, true crime. Sometimes I guess, sometimes not.

1:21.5

And also... But always a gab. And then there's gabbing. And there's always gabbing up top.

1:27.0

It's so funny because I feel like we're so insecure about how much gabbing we do.

1:30.9

But anytime I meet any of our listeners at any of my shows, they're like, my favorite

1:33.9

parts, you guys gabbing. I'm like, you're right. You're right. So happy to gab. I'm also a shout

1:42.6

out to everyone I met in Europe in the UK.

1:46.1

Oh, yes. Sweeties. They want you there. They want you there. They're requesting for you.

1:50.6

Me? They want the pod? They want the pod. God, I would love to bring the pod to Europe. Come on. Let's go.

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