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Hello and welcome to NewsHour Live from the BBC World Service in London.

I'm Rebecca Kesby.

Coming up on the programme today, Dame Jane Goodall,

the ground-breaking scientist has died at the age of 91.

Her work with wild chimpanzees in the 1960s changed the way we see our own relationship to other primates.

Here she is talking to the BBC in 2014 about how she made her key discovery that chimps used tools. She found out while she was

studying them in Tanzania in the 60s. I so well remember the day when as I was walking through

the forest and suddenly I saw this black shape crouched over a termite mound. It's the beginning

of the rainy season when the fertile termites fly out form new colonies.

And there was this chimpanzee I could see him through my binoculars, picking pieces of grass

stems.

And although I couldn't see clearly, he was obviously pushing them down into the termite mound

and eating something.

And so two days later, I saw two chimpanzees

this time in very plain view. And not only were they using grass stems to fish for termites,

but one of them several times picked a leafy twig. And to use that, he had to strip the leaves

off. That's the beginning of toolmaking.

And we'll have more from that interview with Jane Goodall.

And also we'll be assessing her legacy with the British naturalist Chris Packham in about 30 minutes time.

First, though, according to the Danish Prime Minister Mehta, Frederen, Europe is only at the beginning of a hybrid war with Russia

and that all Europeans need to understand what's at stake.

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