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Fareed Zakaria GPS

Russian crackdown on Western media; competition with China; Russian and Chinese spies in the U.S.

Fareed Zakaria GPS

CNN

News

4.23.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2023

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Anton Troianovski, the New York Times' Moscow bureau chief, joins Fareed to talk about Russia’s arrest of American journalist Evan Gershkovich and how the war is playing out in Russian society. Fareed also speaks with David McCormick, a Republican politician and a former Under Secretary for International Affairs in the Treasury Department, about trade and competition with China, the future of the GOP, and how we teach American history in schools. Plus, former CIA official Carol Rollie Flynn talks to Fareed about stunning allegations this week from the Justice Department about Russian and Chinese clandestine operations in the U.S. Guests: Anton Troianovski (@antontroian), David McCormick (@DaveMcCormickPA), Carol Rollie Flynn. Air date: April 24, 2023.   To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is GPS, the Global Public Square.

0:04.6

Welcome to all of you in the United States and around the world.

0:07.6

I'm Fariz Zakaria coming to you from New York.

0:10.2

Today we'll devote most of the program to the Global Power Struggles we are witnessing.

0:16.8

America versus China, America versus Russia.

0:21.7

We'll give you a Republican roadmap for how to compete with China,

0:27.3

with David McCormick, a former top treasury official, hedge fund CEO and Republican politician.

0:33.9

I'll also ask him about whether the GOP...

0:36.6

Four more years!

0:39.3

...needs to get beyond Donald Trump.

0:41.4

We love you! We love you! We love you!

0:45.2

But first, I'll look deep inside Russia.

0:48.9

Just what is Vladimir Putin's end-if?

0:53.8

I'll talk to the New York Times, Pure Chief and Torn Trionovsky.

0:59.0

Also, both Beijing and Moscow have spies and operatives in America.

1:04.5

That is a given.

1:05.8

But revelations this week about exactly what both China and Russia are doing stateside,

1:11.6

shocked even long time spy watchers.

1:15.0

We will tell you all about it.

1:19.0

But first, here's my take.

1:21.4

The United States and China have embarked on one of the most hair-raising experiments in international history.

1:28.2

Both sides are now locked in a steady escalating geopolitical competition.

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