It's so hardcore guys and the worst thing about it all that it's fake it's

Imagin I think well I think it's completely imagined by Americans who really never dealt with any Russian person.

Oh, I have a Russian accent and I can probably sound like a choir boy.

So what do you think?

Well, we are, it's hard to say. I mean, I think that similarly there is Americans or else there's like a stereotypical American

archetype to people in other countries but people associating I mean I do think there is a lot of

brucephobia I think they're the only group of people in America that you can like legitimately be racist against well in a socially acceptable way. Yeah, but the Italians is less hateful.

Yeah, it's like a punchline.

Americans really, and maybe it's like a vestige of the Cold War

or something, but this idea of Russians as being like a moral cold brutal

when there's so much evidence to the

Putin really is not helping with this stereotype.

Well, he is the stereotype, actually.

He matches it.

I mean, stereotypes are all true up to point.

They get blurry on the margins, right?

Well, it's also kind of imagined about him, but yeah, he's not transparent and he is very secretive and it makes, I think there are legitimate grievances of Americans with Russia. I think it's not only imagined, but it also about

It comes from the 90s basically because in the 90s when Russia was open to US a lot of

businessmen went to Russia because it's a length of opportunities, right? They can just build

stuff and get rich quick because there's nothing in

90s Russia. And they were faced with a lot of weird mafia guys and weird criminals and because there was no law in Russia in

Yeltsin Russia at all and because well some guys like Paul Leibnikovir killed journalists because some businessmen were also killed

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