Russia-Ukraine-US negotiation chess and poker
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🗓️ 29 May 2025
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Russia-Ukraine-US negotiation chess and poker
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| 0:00.0 | All right, Alexander, let's talk about the negotiations between Ukraine and Russia. |
| 0:06.7 | We now have the date for the second round of part two of the Istanbul negotiations, |
| 0:14.6 | which took place a couple of weeks ago. |
| 0:18.2 | And the next round will also take place, obviously, in Istanbul. |
| 0:22.3 | A lot of talk about it taking place at the Vatican. Kellogg mentioned Geneva. We are going |
| 0:28.6 | to have the next round of negotiations in Istanbul on June the 2nd. That is coming up next week. we have the second round of talks. I believe it's going to be |
| 0:42.2 | the same negotiating teams, Medinsky for the Russians and whoever Ukraine puts out. I think |
| 0:49.8 | Umer of the defense minister. So let's talk about the second round of negotiations. |
| 0:57.0 | And Alexander, let's discuss how the narrative now is that Ukraine has submitted its memorandum, |
| 1:08.0 | its draft memorandum, or as Kellogg called it, a term sheet. That's the words |
| 1:12.2 | that Kellogg used. Ukraine has submitted this to the United States. Kellogg admitted as much |
| 1:17.7 | two days ago on Fox News, and then they gave it to the Russians, which is, I'm a bit suspicious about what's going on. I actually believe that Kellogg drafted |
| 1:32.0 | this memorandum, whether this is basically Kellogg's plan that has just been transferred |
| 1:36.9 | over to Ukraine. I think Kellogg messed up when he was talking to Fox News and he said that |
| 1:41.8 | Ukraine has already submitted their plan. A couple of days later, we now get Ukraine saying, okay, okay, we submitted our plan to Russia. |
| 1:50.0 | I found the whole timing of all of this very, very suspicious. |
| 1:54.6 | Anyway, they are now saying that Russia is delaying. |
| 1:57.6 | Russia is delaying in submitting their draft memorandum, which means that Russia's |
| 2:01.3 | not serious about peace. Your thoughts on everything that's going on. |
| 2:04.9 | Well, it is all very interesting, but you're absolutely right. The Americans, to be more |
| 2:09.7 | precise, the Kellogg wing of the administration has drafted Ukraine's proposal. There's |
| 2:15.7 | been no sign at all that the Ukrainians have been working on a |
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