Russia, Ukraine, Constitutionalism, and the Rule of Law

We the People

National Constitution Center

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🗓️ 11 March 2022

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24, 2022, and the two nations have been at war since. This week, two experts in constitutional law and international affairs join us to unpack the causes of this war, what potential implications for the core principles of liberal democracy and constitutionalism might be, and whether international law has any power to stop the fighting. Kim Lane Scheppele, the Laurance S. Rockefeller Professor of Sociology and International Affairs in the Princeton School of Public and International Affairs, and the University Center for Human Values at Princeton University, and Jeffrey Kahn, professor of law and Gerald J. Ford Research Fellow at Southern Methodist University, join Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center. The National Constitution Center relies on support from listeners like you to provide nonpartisan constitutional education to Americans of all ages. Visit www.constitutioncenter.org/we-the-people to donate, and thank you for your crucial support. Questions or comments about the show? Email us at podcast@constitutioncenter.org. Continue today’s conversation on Facebook and Twitter using @ConstitutionCtr. Sign up to receive Constitution Weekly, our email roundup of constitutional news and debate, at bit.ly/constitutionweekly.

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0:00.0	Hello, I'm Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, and welcome to We The People, a weekly show of constitutional debate.
0:11.0	The National Constitution Center is a
0:13.4	nonpartisan nonprofit chartered by Congress to increase awareness and
0:18.2	understanding the Constitution among the American people. This week we're turning our attention to the invasion of Ukraine
0:26.3	and what it's taught us about core principles of liberal democracy, constitutionalism,
0:32.3	and a rule of law.
0:34.4	Joining me to explore these urgently important questions
0:37.2	are two of America's leading experts
0:39.4	on the rule of law and constitutionalism in Russia and Ukraine and abroad.
0:45.0	Kim Lane Shepley is the Lawrence S Rockefeller Professor of Sociology and International Affairs
0:50.0	in the Law. Kim, welcome back to We the People.
1:03.0	Lovely to be here.
1:04.0	And Jeffrey Khan is the Professor of Law and Gerald J. Ford Research Fellow at Southern Methodist
1:09.5	University.
1:10.5	He is author of Mrs. Shipley's Ghost, The Right to Travel and Terrorist Watchlists.
1:15.6	Jeff, thank you so much for joining.
1:18.2	Thank you for the invitation.
1:19.4	It's good to be here.
1:20.7	This is an urgently important topic, and you both can cast such important light on it.
1:27.0	Jeff, let's begin with you. You have an article, The Search for the Rule of law in Russia in 2006, in which you identify three features of the rule
1:38.5	of law and discuss how Russia is and is not living up to them.
1:43.0	Tell us what is the rule of law and does Russia have a rule of law?
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