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Robert Wright's Nonzero

Russia, Ukraine, and US Diplomacy (Robert Wright & Samuel Charap)

Robert Wright's Nonzero

Nonzero

News & Politics, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.7618 Ratings

🗓️ 1 November 2022

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

1:25 Sam’s Foreign Affairs piece on the importance of Ukraine diplomacy 10:14 What’s Biden’s endgame in Ukraine? 20:06 Sam: Russia has already suffered a strategic defeat 39:59 Did the West play a role in Ukraine’s 2014 revolution? 46:39 Putin says the West is Russia’s real enemy. Does he believe it? 50:26 America’s lack of diplomatic urgency before Putin invaded 57:22 How much pro-Russia sentiment is there in Ukraine?

Robert Wright (Bloggingheads.tv, The Evolution of God, Nonzero, Why Buddhism Is True) and Samuel Charap (RAND Corporation, Everyone Loses). Recorded November 01, 2022.

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0:00.0

You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast.

0:08.4

Hi, Sam.

0:09.9

Hi, Bob.

0:11.0

How you doing?

0:12.3

Not bad.

0:12.8

And you?

0:13.6

Can't complain.

0:14.4

Let me introduce us.

0:15.1

I'm Robert Wright, publisher, The Non-Zero Newsletter.

0:17.8

This is the Non-Zero podcast.

0:19.4

You are Samuel Cherup, if that's the

0:23.1

correct pronunciation. You got it. You're at the Rand Corporation. You are, I think, what,

0:29.5

a senior political scientist there or something? That's the silly title they came up with for me.

0:34.4

That's a perfectly wonder. You want to trade titles? I like that title.

0:40.5

The, you were also in the state department during the Obama administration. Uh, you recently, like last

0:48.5

week, co-authored a piece for foreign affairs called Don't Rule Out Diplomacy in Ukraine. The subtitle, you may, I doubt you gave

0:56.0

it the subtitle, but anyway, the subtitle is Biden's current strategy, risks, escalation, and

1:02.0

Forever War. I want to talk about that. You co-authored that with Miranda. How does she pronounce it?

1:08.3

Prebe.

1:15.0

You also co-authored a book in 2017 called Everyone Loses,

1:18.4

The Ukraine Crisis and the Ruinous Contests for Post-Soviet Eurasia.

1:22.2

I definitely want to draw on that part of your knowledge because I'd like to get into the roots of the conflict a little more deeply than is common.

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