‘Russia must lose in Ukraine to stop World War III’ | 2 years on since the full scale invasion
Ukraine: The Latest
Louisa Wells / Francis Dearnley
4.8 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 24 February 2024
⏱️ 57 minutes
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In this special edition of The Telegraph's Ukraine: The Latest podcast, the team appeared in Kyiv alongside a Nobel peace prize winner.
Telegraph journalists David Knowles, Francis Dearnley and Dominic Nicholls were joined by Oleksandra Matviichuk, the head of the Center for Civil Liberties.
“As a human rights lawyer, I have spent years and years implementing law to defend people and human dignity,” said Ms Matviichuk. “But now I find myself in a situation where the law doesn’t work. Because Russian troops are deliberately shelling residential buildings, schools, churches, hospitals.
“They are abducting, robbing, raping and killing civilians… and the entire UN architecture of peace and security can't stop it. “My answer is: give Ukraine weapons.”
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| 0:00.0 | bravery takes you through the most unimaginable hardships to finally reward you with victory. |
| 0:14.0 | If we give President Zelensky the tools, the Ukrainians will finish the job. |
| 0:19.0 | Slava Ukrainian. |
| 0:20.0 | Nobody is going to break us. We're strong. We're Ukrainian. |
| 0:27.0 | Hello and welcome to this special recording of Ukraine the latest. My name is David Knowles and we are very honored to be here in the |
| 0:35.3 | Ukrainian capital city of Kyiv for this recording marking the anniversary of |
| 0:39.9 | the full scale invasion, two years at war for Ukraine. |
| 0:43.7 | Honored to be joined here by my colleagues, Associate Editor Dominic Nichols, |
| 0:47.3 | and Assistant Comment editor Francis Sternly, and we're hugely honored to have with us |
| 0:51.8 | Alexandra Madfichuk, head of the Center of Civil Liberties, |
| 0:54.8 | human rights lawyer and winner of the Nobel Peace Prize. |
| 0:57.8 | Alexandra, thank you so much for joining us. |
| 0:59.8 | Thank you for invitation. |
| 1:01.2 | Let's start then, I think, by looking back over the past two years and just trying to summarize |
| 1:07.4 | your thoughts I'd like to hear from all of you on where we are at the current moment. |
| 1:12.2 | Looking back and, looking forward. |
| 1:13.6 | Alexandra, can I start with you? |
| 1:16.0 | February 2024, can you summarize your thoughts on where we are in the full scale |
| 1:20.6 | invasion? |
| 1:21.6 | This war started not in February, 2022, but in February 2014, when Ukraine obtained a chance |
| 1:28.0 | for the quick democratic transition after the collapse of the authoritarian regime due to revolution of dignity. |
| 1:35.0 | And in order to stop us on this way, Russia started this war of aggression. |
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