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Russia, Iran and divisions in the White House

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🗓️ 19 April 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Russia, Iran and divisions in the White House

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0:00.0

All right, Alexander, let's talk about the divisions in the Trump White House, something

0:06.6

that we have been talking about for more than a month, actually, the possible divisions

0:13.8

in the Trump administration.

0:15.7

At the time when we reported on this, we weren't 100% certain about the divisions. We analyzed that there were two factions

0:29.9

that were emerging in the Trump administration. There was this neocon, new neocon or neocon light type of faction, whatever you want to call it.

0:40.7

On one side, consisting of, definitely of Kellogg and his unconditional ceasefire plan.

0:49.0

And Waltz definitely supporting Kellogg and Rubio as well.

0:55.0

And on the other side was Whitkoff, Vance, possibly Gabbard.

1:01.0

At the time when we were reporting this, I believe Gabbard was just about to enter as DNI.

1:09.0

And she was definitely in the way we saw. She was definitely on the Wittkoff side of

1:15.7

things, which is negotiating with Russia, perhaps agreeing to Istanbul plus the June 2024 terms

1:25.3

that Putin laid out. And so we talked about these divisions.

1:30.8

It needs to be said that Rubio has been floating between the two groups, it seems, to be fair to Rubio.

1:39.4

He has talked about the multipolar world.

1:41.9

He has talked about the inevitability of the multipolar world on one side of things, but he's also been siding with Kellogg and Waltz.

1:50.8

And he's definitely got the neocan tendencies, at least when you look at his past as a U.S.

1:57.5

Senator. So the Wall Street Journal, many other collective West publications,

2:03.1

they are now openly Reuters. They're now openly talking about this division in the Trump

2:07.2

administration. And it's not only connected to Project Ukraine and Russia, it's actually

2:14.5

also connected in a way to Iran as well as the New York Times has revealed.

2:20.2

So, Alexander, we have this division in the White House. What are your thoughts?

2:25.6

Yeah. To simplify, I'm going to say, we can talk, we can call the Rubio-Waltz-Kalb group.

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