Russia ‘disguised’ its war dead as Ukrainians & Trump ‘may’ meet Zelensky at key NATO summit in The Hague

Ukraine: The Latest

Louisa Wells / Francis Dearnley

Vladimir Putin, Unknown, Jets, Daily News, Guns, Army, Tanks, Documentary, Russians, History, Russia-ukraine Conflict, News, Ukraine, Society & Culture, Volodymyr Zelensky, Russia, War

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🗓️ 24 June 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Day 1,217.

Today, as the NATO summit gets underway in The Hague, we look at how the alliance is shifting the goalposts on how members’ contributions should be counted. We report on last night’s closed door session with President Zelensky - which we attended - and we hear the panel event Francis moderated recently at the Black Sea Security Forum in Odesa.

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Dominic Nicholls (Associate Editor of Defence). @DomNicholls on X.

Francis Dearnley (Executive Editor for Audio). @FrancisDearnley on X.

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0:00.0	The Telegraph.
0:09.1	What might happen if Russia attacked the UK?
0:13.2	This is clearly an enormous show of force.
0:15.1	It is definitely out of the ordinary.
0:17.3	We ran a war game with former ministers back in the hot seat.
0:21.3	Van Wallace.
0:22.0	Amber Rudd.
0:22.7	Jack Straw.
0:23.5	It's the kind of war game that's genuinely tested inside government.
0:27.6	The Russians are signalling that there may be an attack.
0:30.5	Russia knows our weaknesses, but do you?
0:33.1	I'm Deborah Haynes from Sky News and Tortus.
0:35.8	This is the war game.
0:37.1	Listen, wherever you get your podcasts.
0:44.1	I'm Dom Nichols and this is Ukraine the latest. Today, as the NATO summit gets underway in the
0:49.9	Hague, we look at how the alliance is shifting the goalposts on how members' contributions should be counted.
0:56.0	We report on last night's closed-door session with President Zelensky, which we attended,
1:01.0	and we hear the panel event France has moderated recently at the Black Sea Security Forum in Odessa.
1:07.0	Bravery takes you through the most unimaginable hardships to finally reward you with victory.
1:17.8	Russia does not want fees.
1:19.4	First, we're fighting, with our help for the Ukraine,
1:22.9	also our freedom and our European Verte.
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