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The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

Russia - Be Careful What We Wish For | Frankly #17

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

Nate Hagens

Natural Sciences, Science, Earth Sciences

4.8555 Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2022

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

We were reminded this week of how precarious and dangerous the ongoing NATO/Russia situation is. An errant missile in Poland on Tuesday nearly started World War III (thankfully - cooler heads prevailed). The situation in Ukraine is horribly complex - but are people in the USA even paying attention? Many naively believe getting rid of Putin or 'winning' militarily vs Russia are valid and reasonable goals. But from a systems vantage there is more going on here than the mainstream narrative - we are in the liminal space between a unipolar and multipolar world order - a time fraught with various risks.  Our collective understanding/response is vital to livable futures.  

 

For Show Notes and More visit: https://www.thegreatsimplification.com/frankly-original/17-russia-be-careful-what-we-wish-for

To Watch on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jY3QpjxiPk

Transcript

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0:00.0

In addition to being energy blind, our culture is largely geopolitics blind.

0:07.6

This week's frankly, I'm going to talk about what's going on between Russia and the United

0:12.7

States in the country of Ukraine and the situation we all find ourselves in as we navigate

0:19.7

a unipolar world towards a multipolar world, which is inevitable,

0:24.3

and how we navigate it is absolutely critical to all our futures and planetary futures.

0:31.3

Good morning. It is Thursday, November 17th. Two days ago, we came very close to World War III.

0:40.3

Ukrainian missile landed in Poland. The initial suspicion was it was from Russia.

0:47.3

And all of this comes to the fore yet again. To be honest, to be frank, the NATO-U.S.-Russia-Ukraine situation has been in my mind

1:02.4

all year, because relative to inflation or jobs or climate change, this issue, the risk of a nuclear exchange, everything else

1:15.5

pales in comparison. Because if there is a nuclear exchange, a nuclear escalation, the moment

1:23.7

that we wake up to that, everything in our world changes forever and all

1:30.0

of the benign pathways that the pro-social followers of this podcast and millions and millions

1:37.9

of people around the world are working on towards sustainable pathways are off the table.

1:48.2

So I had planned on doing a Halloween,

1:52.9

a Thanksgiving reflection on energy, and I might still do that next week,

1:54.5

but here are my thoughts on the Russia situation. So first of all, there's a, there's a narrative, right? When a country goes to war,

2:07.6

there's a narrative. I think with modern day public relations, nations have gotten really good at

2:14.5

that. The nation that I live in and I'm a citizen of and dearly

2:20.2

love, the United States has been very successful at making Putin out to be the evil antichrist

2:28.1

that is responsible for all this. Putin may be a thug. I don't like the guy. I suspect that there are people in Russia

2:38.5

that love their dogs and like to go fishing and watch sports and care about the environment

2:42.9

just like I do, and that these nation leaders are similar in many places. But my point about Putin is there seems to be this theme

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