Welcome back to PodSafe the World, I'm Tommy Vittor.

I'm Ben Rhodes.

And we wanted to do a second episode this week to focus on, you know, the ongoing events

in Ukraine.

I think mostly Ben, because we're both just so horrified, especially last night watching

the Russian assaults on Ukrainian civilians escalate.

And this show is really the only way that we have left to deal with the fear of that

anxiety.

So we're going to work through it with you guys in real time.

I hope listeners don't mind.

Yeah, sometimes you just got to talk about it, you know?

Yeah, yeah, I'm been learning that a lot lately.

This is part of my therapy.

So we're going to talk through a few of the big updates since we recorded on Tuesday

and then later in the show, you're going to hear Ben's interview with Christopher Miller

from Buzzfeed News, who's been reporting on the ground in Ukraine for a long time.

It's just an exceptionally good reporter.

Ben, you want to preview that at all?

Yeah, and you guys who've heard him in the past know he's just incredibly thoughtful and

dog-ed reporter.

He walks us through what the situation is like in and around Kiev where he's been, what

the Ukrainian people are going through and what the Russian military escalation has felt

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