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O.org. from dot o'r g. Hello this is Russell, and you're listening to Sign Posts.

Today I'm going to have a conversation with one of my all-time favorite authors, Marilyn Robinson,

who's going to join us in a few moments but I wanted to say a

few things about her before she joins us because there may be some of you who like I am

you read everything that Marilyn Robinson writes. Some of you may have

like I do in front of me right now a stack of Marilyn Robinson books that are

that are marked through and have book flags and highlights all through it.

But there may be some of the others of you who aren't familiar with Marilyn Robinson.

And what I'd like to say to you about her is that she's a very unlikely figure in many ways.

This is someone who's a Pulitzer Prize winning author. She was interviewed by the President of the United States,

Barack Obama, in the New York Review of Books a couple of years ago and she didn't interview

him. He interviewed her, which I don't know that I've ever

seen that happen before. But she's able to speak, it seems to me, to all kinds of people,

whether they're very, very secular,

or whether they're very religious.

And I think there are some reasons for that,

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