Hey, everybody. It's me, Sam Stein, managing editor at the Bork, and I'm joined by Catherine

Rampal. This is our first, this is our, this is our first take together. I think it is, yeah. It's like, all of our takes to this point have been just, you know, yeah, private takes. Private takes. I was going to compare this to, like, a second bar mitzvah for me. I feel like this is maturation process in my life here. But I'm very excited about this. I'm almost a little nervous,

Catherine. Oh, well, I want to be there. for me. I feel like this is a maturation process in my life here. But I'm very excited about this.

I'm almost a little nervous, Catherine. Oh, well, I won't make you do the horror.

So I don't want. I do. Yes, actually. We're actually going to be talking about your latest newsletter

receipts, which everyone should be signed up for because it's an incredible newsletter.

It's off to a great start. This one was kind of

funny because, well, I guess all of yours have kind of hit on personal interests, but this one

I felt like you've been storing up a lot of data points for this. And it was about, I don't know,

how do you describe it? Like weird bribery efforts to get on Trump's good side? Is that it?

Yeah, it's basically all of

the bullshit that companies are having to spend their time preoccupied with related to like

appeasing Trump, sucking up to Trump in various ways, things that they're doing instead of actual business stuff.

Right.

So that might mean something like coming up with a golden plaque for the president, as Apple did.

Or, you know, Switzerland came up with a gold Rolex clock.

Yeah, I want to get into ranking, like, the best suckups.

But I also want to know, put this in the back of your mind.

I want you to think about by the end of this, if you were a foreign leader, let's say you're

the president of whatever, you know, run Palestine, and you had to like ingratiate yourself with this White House, I want to know what you would give Trump, what you think would be the smartest gift.

Don't say it yet.

Hold on to that thought.

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