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The TPM Show with Josh and Kate

Rupture of the World Order

The TPM Show with Josh and Kate

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Republicans, Politics, Government, News, Democrats

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2026

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Kate and Josh discuss the self-destruction of Trump's America on the world stage and Bill Cassidy's comeuppance.

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1:02.6

Thank you so much for listening and supporting us the Josh Marshall podcast featuring Kate Riga.

1:07.1

It is Thursday, January 22nd, a day later than we usually record.

1:11.4

But it may have been an important day with some developments we've had over the last 36 hours. We had these speeches at Davos, you know, kind of, I thought we were post-davosh.

1:20.0

Davos for some reason is kind of a thing again, right? To the extent there is such a thing as

1:24.4

neoliberalism and sort of global elite cosmopolitan culture,

1:30.0

that is it, but it is sort of back in a way. In any case, there were speeches by the President

1:34.9

of the United States, Donald Trump, and the Prime Minister of Canada, Mark Carney.

1:39.6

You know, very interesting figure, sort of a, I wouldn't say an accidental prime minister, but as we know,

1:45.2

someone who became, you know, his, his, the liberals had been in power for a dozen years and,

1:52.5

you know, they were going to get swept out and the conservatives were going to take over.

1:55.8

The conservative party had the misfortune of having a very Trumpy standard bearer. And the liberals were able to

2:03.8

have Justin Trudeau step down, go to Mark Carney. It's a very interesting figure. He is certainly

2:09.5

the only prime minister ever in world history who has not only run a central bank. He's run two

2:16.3

central banks. Like who's run two central banks.

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