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Even the Rich

RuPaul: You Better Work (Encore) | 281

Even the Rich

Wondery

Society & Culture

4.311.5K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

RuPaul is born feeling like an outsider. Rejection by his father and peers makes him doubt whether he’ll ever fit in. But instead of conforming, he doubles down and becomes a gender-bending punk musician.

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0:00.0

Wondery Plus subscribers can binge the newest season of Even the Rich before anyone else.

0:04.4

Join Wonderly Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.

0:07.6

Happy Pride Month, Richies.

0:09.4

This month, Even the Rich is paying tribute to heroes and allies in the gay community.

0:14.6

Yeah, so we dipped into the ETR Vault and pulled out one of our favorite episodes.

0:18.6

And it all centers around a drag queen who's been fighting the good fight for decades. Now, this just isn't any drag queen. We're talking about the

0:26.5

queen of all things drag. The one and only, RuPaul. Rue might be a household name now,

0:32.3

thanks to the success of RuPaul's drag race, but as you're about to hear, it wasn't always

0:36.6

catwalks and death

0:37.6

drops for this trailblazing queen. Yeah, so this is part one of our arc on Rupal. You can find

0:43.5

the other three parts wherever you get your podcasts. Just search Even the Rich.

0:47.3

Now Ritchies, we hope you're all letting your freak flags fly this Pride Month, because as Rue himself

0:52.5

would say, we're all born naked, and the rest is drag.

0:57.0

This episode contains strong language, adult situations, drug use, and occasional shade.

1:03.6

Listener discretion advised.

1:04.9

Music It's the summer of 1960, and Ernestine Charles is walking down the sidewalk in San Diego, California.

1:22.6

She cuts a striking figure in a flowy beige dress with black geometric patterns, and a seven-month

1:30.0

pregnancy bump.

1:31.8

Her fellow San Diego's don't get her Jackie-O style, but she doesn't care.

1:37.0

As she'll later tell her children, if they ain't paying your bills, pay them no mind.

1:43.0

Ernestine likes to be called Tony.

1:45.0

She was named after her mother, but ditched her birth name years ago after she and her mom

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