Running the 'Systems Discourse' Gauntlet | Frankly #42
The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
Nate Hagens
4.8 • 553 Ratings
🗓️ 25 August 2023
⏱️ 15 minutes
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Summary
In this week's Frankly, Nate considers 7 different continuums of perspectives people use when taking part in a "systems" discourse, such as The Great Simplification podcast is attempting. In such complex and often controversial discussions, each of us has a point of view that stems from our own personal experiences, knowledge and identity - yet how we channel that point of view into the larger discourse matters. How does understanding our own perspectives potentially help us side-step mental roadblocks and become more open to other possibilities and actions? What are the hidden ruts that we can fall into when discussing the future with others that we're not consciously thinking of and can we learn to avoid them? Can shifting our perspective along the spectrum of potential responses open dialogue and facilitate more inclusive and cooperative conversations as we collectively try to meet the future halfway?
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| 0:00.0 | Greetings. This will be the first, frankly, that I've ever recorded while on allergy medicine. |
| 0:08.0 | I'm taking Benadryl to ward off the evils of August ragweed here in northern Wisconsin. |
| 0:16.0 | So I'm going to start with a fact. This is not going to be what I talk about specifically in this episode. |
| 0:25.7 | 10,000 years ago, there was approximately 50,000 kilograms of wild mammal, terrestrial wild mammal weight for every human being that was alive on the planet. |
| 0:41.9 | Fast forward to 200 years ago in the year 1800 when there were one billion humans and there was |
| 0:49.5 | approximately 80 kilograms of wild mammal biomass relative to each human. |
| 0:59.0 | Now, during that period, most of that was the result of a growing population of humans. |
| 1:07.0 | But since 1800, when there were 80 kilograms, to today, there are only two and a half kilograms of mammal weight per human on the planet. |
| 1:22.3 | That is a result, yes, growing the number of humans from 1 billion to 8 billion, but also the decimation |
| 1:30.3 | of wild mammal populations. There are still 6,000 plus mammal populations, but the number of them |
| 1:39.3 | and the average weight of them is diminishing. |
| 1:46.4 | I find this to be a profoundly disturbing statistic, |
| 1:50.7 | but when my friend Tom Murphy shared this with me a few days ago, |
| 1:56.1 | it was on the heels of what I'd been noticing from recent, frankly, and podcast episodes, |
| 2:05.2 | the vitriol and tribalism and different sort of tenor in the comments on YouTube and in my |
| 2:13.3 | emails. |
| 2:15.1 | Someone said, I subscribe to your podcast because of XYZ guests and now I'm unsubscribing |
| 2:22.7 | because of this clown. I got massive positive feedback from a recent guest episode. At the same |
| 2:30.8 | time, I got massive negative feedback. So I think what I'm attempting here is really difficult. |
| 2:42.0 | And today I'm going to describe what it looks like. |
| 2:48.0 | Of course, I'm making this up, but it's tethered to reality and also tethered to |
| 2:52.9 | science to run the gauntlet of discourse about the future. So when I talk about the reduction in |
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