Hi, this is Mary and Bartoli. I'm Matt's Belander. This is Mary Carillo. I'm Stan Roenka. I'm like Newt. I'm Andy Murray. This is Yanik Noah.

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Well a big thank you to Rudd Rajoy Chakraborti, who I think that was pronounced Rudd's, wasn't it, on the recording there, Catherine?

I would say that Rudd's got a pretty good voice for a podcast and should perhaps have my job.

A threateningly good voice. Yeah, but anyway. And the fellow Londoner, far more convenient for me than Solly Hall.

Yeah. All right. I've been ditched. Anyway, I'm going to move on very quickly in order to keep my job. And yeah, huge thank you for backing us in last year's Kickstarter at the intro level.

We've had many, many people do exactly the same thing for 2021. Cannot thank you enough. Bold over, really continued to be.

So thank you. The Kickstarter remains open if you want to get yourself an intro or shout out or enter predictions or just, you know, do your bit, check a few quid in the kitty, whatever.

We're much appreciate, we're very much appreciating every thing we receive. And yeah, we have another tennis podcast for you today.

This one with a special interview, an interview I did earlier today with Chris Camo, the former ATP boss, the CEO until late last year.

So get into lots and lots of discussion about the situation that tennis finds itself in within the pandemic. Here's time in the job. All sorts of things, which we're going to cover in this edition of the podcast matters here. Hello, Matt, you're right.

Good to be here. Yes. Yes. Normally at this time of year, I'm sort of really missing tennis, but I think the five month break that we had this year has kind of made me a bit immune to not having tennis.

Is that a sad or weird thing to say? I'm not, I'm not feeling the effect of the opposite. Okay. Interest. Are you feeling Catherine?

I miss it more. I think because I don't have a fixed point to look forward to.

I'm sort of okay with missing things if I know if it's a. Okay.

If it has a degree of certainty to it, and I could think, oh, if I could treat it as deferred gratification, which is kind of the flavor of 2020 isn't it deferred gratification.

But I feel like that only works if you have an idea and a certain amount of certainty about when you're when and what you're deferring to.

I think for me, that's part of the reason why I'm feeling how I'm feeling. I think normally the missing tennis comes with a lot of excitement about the tennis to come.

I don't have that excitement because it's so uncertain and up in the air. Maybe when we get some more concrete plans, I will start to count down the days a little bit more.

I don't know. I believe the Abu Dhabi exhibition event is going ahead quite soon.

That's usually over the Christmas New Year period. Yeah, I think it might be a bit sooner this year.

Right. If anyone's read Jesper it. I could do it.

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