Hi and welcome to Everything is Fine, a podcast for women over 40.

We are your hosts. I'm Kim France.

And I'm Jen Romalini.

And you're Jim Romalini in a bathroom in a hotel in Denver.

I am, I have to tell you.

Yeah, I am, the mic is on the toilet, my kid is in the other room with headphones on.

I, I am having one of those days where I'm questioning all of my life choices.

Like, really, I'm also sick. I'm in Denver.

Like, you know, Denver, no, shout out to everybody who lives in Denver and loves

Denver, what I've seen of Denver, which admittedly is not very much. I'm just saying, what am I doing here?

I don't belong in Denver. But also, let me, I'm just going to rant for a second. I'm sorry. I really am like, I have set up my life in such a way that I don't ever have time off. Like, I'm exhausted today. I'm sick. I had to get up and like update some bullshit. Like I have off from my day job. But because I am also a part of the creator economy, I have to feed the gaping maw of content

or people get mad, they go away, you lose money. So it's just like I wrote a book about how

overwork is terrible. I never am not working. I am never. There's like literally I'm sitting in a

fucking bathroom with my face toward a toilet. Like it's ridiculous. The cobbler's children have no

shoes. Oh, I know. I know. I mean, I don't want a bitch, but I'm so lucky, but like I've been

taught when people

like, well, what's the, what's the secret? What's the trick? How do you have a rewarding

creative life and also make money and, you know, and it's like, you work all the time. That's it.

That's, that's, unless you're generational wealth and you have, like, unless you're generational wealth and you have like unless you're wealthy, I don't know how else you

figure it out. Like because nothing pays enough that is going to allow you any kind of freedom and

balance. No full-time job pays enough that's going to create balance in your life, not one, right?

Unless, you know, and then you have to, you have to supplement that job that doesn't pay enough. And then also you want to have some creative fulfillment and also you have to supplement that job that doesn't pay enough.

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