Crypto is really getting more and more institutionalized.

It's getting more focused on what you can really do with the technology.

And as we're seeing, there's sort of this, a lot of crypto projects.

They're kind of in a, you know, they're having a bit of sort of like a lack of what's,

what are we supposed to do now, right?

But the really big, you know, established defy projects, the ones generating revenue like Sky and many

of the other blue chip defy and really established players in the space.

This is actually the moment we've been hoping for all this time.

You know, finally, there's less noise and there's more focus on the fundamentals, on revenue,

on all these things that should have been totally natural from the beginning.

Our next guest joins us now. Rune Christensen. Rune is director of the Sky Frontier Foundation and co-founder of Sky, formerly known as Maker Dow. Sky is a Dify protocol that scales the legacy

of MakerDAO by bridging decentralized governance with institutional grade, stable coin rewards, and real-world asset allocation.

Bruin, welcome.

Thanks for having me.

Of course, thanks for being here.

I've been waiting to talk to you all day because I've really been following this AI agents on social media boom that's been happening over the past few days

with Moldtbook. And you acknowledged on X that people are freaked out by this, but you said

that Sky has been preparing for this all along. Kind of unpack that for me.

Well, so, I mean, the Sky, first of all, is the world's largest yield generating stable coin project.

And actually, the way that Sky is able to deliver such a great and efficient world's largest yield generating stable coin project.

And actually, the way that Sky is able to deliver such a great and efficient risk-adjuster

return on the USDS stablecoin is through what's known as the Sky Agents, which is essentially

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