Run Toward the Problem (with Tim Heaphy)

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Society & Culture, Politics, Government, News

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🗓️ 9 January 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Why do so many see rioters as patriots? Has apathy become a bigger threat than violence? The lead investigator in the House Select Committee to investigate the January 6th attack on the Capitol, Tim Heaphy, joins Preet to discuss the evolving narrative around the insurrection, the push for pardons, and how distrust in government has eroded faith in public institutions. Heaphy is out with a new book, Harbingers: What January 6 and Charlottesville Reveal About Rising Threats to American Democracy, an insider account of these seminal events and where we go from here. For show notes and a transcript of the episode head to: cafe.com/stay-tuned/january-6-charlottesville-democracy-tim-heaphy-book/ Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on Threads, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at [email protected], or call 669-247-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, welcome to stay tuned.
0:05.6	I'm Preet Bharara.
0:07.5	Happy New Year, everybody.
0:09.6	Welcome to 2025.
0:11.5	I hope you got some time away from work, away from the grind, and you got some quality time with family and friends.
0:18.4	I hope you spent some time feeling gratitude, gratitude for your life
0:22.9	and life's blessings. As our last guest, Lori Santos prescribed, gratitude is one of the keys to
0:29.8	happiness. I hope also you got some time away from the daily diet of politics and nastiness.
0:36.8	For our part, the Barrara family finally took an epic vacation,
0:41.0	one that we had long dreamed about, literally for years.
0:45.3	But school and work and budget seemed always to get in the way.
0:50.1	We traveled to the other side of the world, all the way to India,
1:01.7	where 56 years ago I was born, and from where, 55 years ago, we left for a new life in the West.
1:10.2	Our kids had never been, and but for a very short business trip in 2017, I hadn't been there in 25 years. We went to have a look at our family's past, at our origins,
1:15.0	modest and far-flung as they were, but also just to have a good time. For 13 days, we gazed upon
1:22.1	ancient forts, explored ornate palaces, learned fascinating history. And we ate. Boy did we eat. So this was our
1:32.4	plan to escape from work and school and from the daily diet of politics and nastiness. And I mostly
1:38.9	succeeded in that escape, but for about a day and a half. The culprit, as usual, was Twitter, or X. We began
1:47.6	Christmas Day with a sunrise tour of the Taj Mahal in Agra. I can report that the early
1:53.1	light on that majestic marble mausoleum defies description. Later, we drove several hours to the
2:00.1	old city of Japur. Late that night, Christmas
2:03.3	night, I scrolled social media. What a mistake that was. I thought someone had screwed with my
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