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Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Run The Jewels Return!

Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Pushkin Industries

Music, Society & Culture

4.54.3K Ratings

🗓️ 28 July 2020

⏱️ 95 minutes

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Summary

***Run the Jewels are raw and so is the language in this episode***

Killer Mike and El-P return to Broken Record to discuss the creation of their fourth album, RTJ4, and the tumultuous world it was released into. Rick Rubin, who was present during some of the album's recording sessions at Shangri La, digs into the record's production and themes with the duo, calling the message and tone of the album "almost prophetic." They also discuss working with Pharrell and Zack de la Rocha and why they had to make a major change to a song after the album was already mastered.

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0:00.0

It's been a little over nine months since Rick Rubin last interviewed Killer Mike and

0:16.0

LP for the show.

0:17.7

Last time they spoke, run the jewels were finishing up their fourth album at Rick's studio of

0:21.4

Shangri-La.

0:22.8

And since then, the world's been upside down, dealing with the pandemic, social unrest,

0:28.3

and racial reckoning unlike anything we've seen in the last couple of decades.

0:32.3

This album feels like a reflection of all of that.

0:35.2

Killer Mike and LP have been raw since day one.

0:38.6

Making a career wrapping about the hypocrisy and injustice that a lot of other people are

0:42.0

just now waking up to.

0:44.4

As Rick says, it makes the new album sound almost prophetic.

0:48.8

But as you'll hear them say, they never set out to make protest songs or the soundtrack

0:52.9

for 2020.

0:54.7

They just speak their truth and sometimes that truth is ugly and dark, but can also be funny

0:59.2

and at times downright joyous.

1:02.2

This is easily my favorite release of the year so far.

1:06.0

This is Broken Record, liner notes for the digital age.

1:12.0

I'm Justin Richmond.

1:15.2

Rick and Run the Jewels had a lot to talk about.

1:20.7

We wanted this one to breathe a little bit to give Killer Mike and LP time to really dig

1:24.0

into the making of the new album and the state of the world.

1:27.8

Here's Rick Rubin with Run the Jewels.

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