I won't tell you that it's gonna be okay.

I won't tell you that it's going to be okay.

Welcome to another episode of the

MacArthur on this podcast.

Today we have with us a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant individual. I think that I'm an author until I read his work and see how

it is depicted throughout the world, but none other than Ruman Alam. How are you feeling

today, brother?

Well, listen, you just called me brilliant three times, so I'm not going to complain about that.

No, I feel great. I feel great.

Thank you for having me today.

Your work is timeless stuff, and I think that's what we're saying. So I think

brilliance does define timeless art. Well that's very generous of you.

What I would say or what I hear in my head when I hear that sort of like the

timelessness of art is that it reminds me how useful art can be in different

moments and I'm sort of like I remain really grateful if people found

something of interest in my last book you know that came up three years ago and

still feels you know by virtue of the Netflix film,

and then it has something to say about this particular moment.

Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, it's amazing.

But look, we, my show is kind of unique

because we start each episode by asking our guests the same question.

Okay.

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