Rules for Radicals | 4
Will Be Wild
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4.4 • 3.6K Ratings
🗓️ 9 May 2022
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
What happens when a young man determines that his father has become a danger to society? How is the divisiveness of our politics wrenching apart families across America? And what is happening to the men and women who followed Trump’s orders and marched on the Capitol? We turn back the clock and tell the story of how the Reffitt family got to January 6th and what’s in store for them now.
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| 0:00.0 | Listen to Will Be Wild early on Amazon Music or Early and Add Free by joining Wondery Plus in Apple |
| 0:06.1 | podcasts or the Wondery app. Hi, just a quick warning that this episode contains descriptions |
| 0:12.1 | of domestic violence. Please take care while listening. |
| 0:17.5 | Last time on Will Be Wild. The concern we had is that when you take a stressor like this and |
| 0:23.3 | the entire nation of the United States experiences, your pool just expanded massively, |
| 0:29.6 | your denominator got huge. Is that what your memo said? This could lead to violence? |
| 0:34.5 | I don't think it's this could. It said we should expect to see more violence on the other side |
| 0:38.4 | of reopening. And we were already collecting on Q&A and the Bougaloo movement and the |
| 0:44.3 | proud boys and three percenters. We were looking for those people and they shut that down. |
| 0:50.9 | So it was in the middle of the insurrection on January 6th they called me. |
| 0:56.1 | I don't know, I can check some refit. Do you have time to talk? |
| 1:06.8 | On the evening of January 8th 2021, Jackson refit is at home watching Borat 2 when there's |
| 1:12.3 | a sound at the front door. I am sitting in the living room. He walks in, he hugs my mom. |
| 1:18.5 | Jackson's dad was away for five days and in those five days the world changed. Guy refit was |
| 1:24.1 | a part of that change. He'd brought a friend over. He'd been with him in Washington. |
| 1:28.1 | He's an older guy. I think he said he was in the Korean War. I have no idea. And they're just talking |
| 1:33.6 | like, yeah, we did it. We did what we wanted to. When we met Jackson earlier in the series, |
| 1:41.0 | he'd just come around to the view that his dad was a dangerous man. The rest of the family |
| 1:45.2 | doesn't know it yet, but even subinded a tip to the FBI about two weeks before the capital riot. |
| 1:50.5 | Warning that guy was planning something big. At this exact moment, as guy returns triumphantly |
| 1:56.7 | home, Jackson feels even more certain that he was right to contact them. And they were just talking |
| 2:02.1 | about how proud they were and what they were going to do next. They were talking about taking |
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