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The Ben Shapiro Show

Rudy Rochman: From the Front Lines

The Ben Shapiro Show

The Daily Wire

News Commentary, News

4.4152.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2023

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Join me as I have a conversation with Rudy Rochman, an Israeli Defense Force paratrooper who has been fighting on the front lines in the midst of this conflict. Rudy shares in detail what's truly going on in the Middle East right now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Joining me on the line is Rudy Rockman. Rudy is serving right now in harm's way. He's an IDF paratrooper in the reserve. He spent the first four days of the war in Kfaraza. That is one of the hardest hit places in Israel where Khmeras terrorists murdered over 100 people. And he saw firsthand the depravity of what was happening right there. So Rudy, first of all, I hope that you're healthy and hope that you stay healthy

0:22.1

and Godspeed on taking it to these pieces of human debris.

0:27.5

I want to start by asking what your experiences were in going into Kfar Aza,

0:33.6

because we're already seeing the Holocaust level rewriting in real time.

0:37.4

It's pretty amazing, the Holocaust denial rewriting in real time, that nothing happened is all fake, that Hamas itself is attempting to walk this back and pretend it didn't kill civilians. What did you see when you went into Kfarazza? I mean, you have to understand that I'm a reservist soldier, so it's been 10 years that I've been out of the army. Now we do training every single year to prepare for a day like this, but no one could have ever imagined or been prepared to see such savagery. On Saturday morning, Shabbat morning, also Sukkot, it was still holiday. I get called up by my reservist unit saying to come back to base within an hour, two hours, we were back on base, and an hour shortly after that, got sent straight to Kfarza. We got there.

1:12.9

There were countless bodies of men. within an hour, two hours, we were back on base, and an hour shortly after that got sent straight to Kfarazah.

1:11.6

We got there, there were countless bodies of men, women, and children, not just shot, but stabbed to pieces, blown up,

1:19.6

burned the most horrendous scenes that you could ever imagine. And this wasn't a war zone of soldiers versus soldiers.

1:25.6

This was a whole community that was attacked and completely annihilated. And so it was horrible to see. But this is why we're here. We're here to prevent this from happening. So, Rudy, how's morale on the ground? How are you doing? How's everybody there doing? I mean, obviously, you know, we're in America. And in America, there's some distance. and as close as it feels, there's still, there's no distance over there.

1:47.6

So how's morale on the ground? What are people thinking? You know, Ben, you know, as a Jew, we've been through a lot of things throughout our history, 4,000 years of history, all the greatest nations have come and tried to destroy us. And we've overcome. We've overcome because we've come together and we

2:00.9

stick together. And that's exactly how we are in Israel. They can take our lives, but they can never take our morale and they'll never be able to destroy us. So we're staying strong. We're preparing for the worst, but we're hoping for the best. So, Rudy, the world is, there's been a very bifurcated reaction. The immediate response is obviously what Hamastid is terrible. Obviously,

2:19.3

what Hamastid is evil. We'll light up buildings with blue and white. there's been a very bifurcated reaction. The immediate response is obviously what

2:18.3

Hamastid is terrible, obviously what Hamastod is evil, will light up buildings with blue and white,

2:21.7

the Israeli flag in Nuremberg and the Israeli flag on the Arch of Titus and all the rest.

2:27.7

But I think everybody who's been following, you know, what goes on in Israel is expecting

2:31.6

and it's already beginning to happen, the shift in tone as Israel does what it has to do in the Gaza Strip. So first of all, what is the goal in the Gaza strip? And second of all, why do you think that the world is immediately shifting into defense mode for Hamas? Well, first of all, the goal in the Gaza Strip would be to take out Hamas and to save the Israeli citizens who have been kidnapped.

3:24.5

You know, it's not only to free Israelis from the terror that Hamas is doing, but also to free the Palestinians. I mean, the majority of the Palestinians in Gaza are human beings, innocent like anywhere else, any other population. And they also suffer under Hamas. Not a lot of people say, well, we don't hear them speaking. Well, there's no freedom of speech under Hamas. If you say anything, you'd be automatically killed. So we need to remove Hamas and Hezbollah and other authorities that are completely dictatorships over the Palestinian people and the people of the region and they're forcing them down. Now, in terms of why the narrative is turning against Israel and people are supporting Hamas, well, you know, they didn't care about Palestinians when they were dying by the thousands in the Syrian Civil War. They didn't care about Arabs and Muslims when they were being killed by the thousands, if not hundreds, thousands in different massacres. They care about this issue because it has to do now with the Jewish people in Israel. And the world is obsessed with Israel. If you look at the far right, they see us as the left.

3:41.1

The far left sees us as the right. You look at the black supremacists, the Farrakans, they blame us for being the problem. You look at the white supremacists. They blame us for being the source of the problem. You look at the communist. They blame us for being the capitalist. The capitalist blame us for being the communists. The death of Jesus blame on the Jews. The economic situation post-world one blame on the Jews.

3:57.6

The Black Plague, Blaineland Jews, COVID-Blaman Jews,

3:59.7

literally anything and everything that's wrong The death of Jesus, blame on the Jews. The economic situation, post-World one, blame on the Jews.

4:03.0

The Black Plague, Blamed on the Jews, literally anything and everything that's wrong with this world, it's always blaming the Jews.

4:06.8

And the one thing that all extremist groups agree on is that the Jew is the source of the problem. So this effort of trying to support Palestinians is not really to help Palestinians. It's a way to attack Israel.

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